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JR
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“No one can own it”
Futura
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“Artists have got to stop compromising”
Elmgreen & Dragset
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“It’s time to change”
Marina Abramović
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“I've always been a soldier”
Rita Ackermann
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“Nothingness is such a vast concept”
Bryan Adams
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“It’s like mining for diamonds”
Ai Weiwei
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“The power designs itself to crush you”
Miles Aldridge
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“You are trying to catch it”
Refik Anadol
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“I’m imagining a different world”
Ini Archibong
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“I have to stay spiritually in tune”
Daniel Arsham
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“It can take years to get there”
David Bailey
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“How are you going to cross the road?”
Fabien Baron
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“We’ve just seen the beginning”
Georg Baselitz
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“The good things will never cause anyone to look”
Vanessa Beecroft
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“I’m repulsed by pop culture”
Harry Benson
:
“I’m keeping their image alive”
Peter Blake
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“I’ll never have to fall off the mountain”
Barry Blitt
:
“A joke cuts through everything”
Gab Bois
:
“If it’s yours, it’ll come”
Mr. Brainwash
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“If I believe it, it’s art for me”
Marco Brambilla
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“There’s too much going on”
AA Bronson
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“I’m as fearless as I ever was”
Helen Cammock
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“I want to change whose stories are heard”
Coco Capitán
:
“We have gone to the other extreme”
Pelle Cass
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“I never fabricate”
Maurizio Cattelan
:
“Show them life”
Judy Chicago
:
“Get used to it!”
Christo
:
“It’s not a profession, it’s existence”
Larry Clark
:
“Why can’t you show everything?”
Francesco Clemente
:
“Making art is to time-travel”
Petra Collins
:
“I know what it’s like to be there”
Michel Comte
:
“We need to listen to nature”
Claudia Comte
:
“It’s never-ending once you start”
Thomas Joshua Cooper
:
“Preparation is all you can do”
Anton Corbijn
:
“My life is crazy, but it’s real love”
Amalia Dayan and Daniella Luxembourg
:
“It’s a personal quest”
Simon de Pury
:
“Curiosity is my engine”
Richard Deacon
:
“A stop, but not a finish”
Thomas Demand
:
“Aesthetics are inevitable”
Tara Donovan
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“I don’t map it at all”
David Doubilet
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“My favorite picture is the one I haven’t taken”
Olafur Eliasson
:
“Things go wrong and we celebrate it”
Ryan Gander
:
“It wants your attention”
Gilbert & George
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“We don’t do art for the few”
Milton Glaser
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“We’re all in it together”
Douglas Gordon
:
“You pull yourself up and you push it out”
Katharina Grosse
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“I don’t see limits”
Mona Hatoum
:
“It’s about shattering the familiar”
Thomas Hirschhorn
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“It is an emancipatory gesture”
Thomas Hoepker
:
“No rehearsal, just one click”
Yngve Holen
:
“You can get what you want out of it”
Roni Horn
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“There’s nothing until there’s something”
Anne Imhof
:
“You get bolder over time”
Space Invader
:
“You own the city”
Rashid Johnson
:
“I can do this?”
Allen Jones
:
“There’s nothing you can do”
Anish Kapoor
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“I have nothing to say”
Bronwyn Katz
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“How I can extend the object’s life?”
Ragnar Kjartansson
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“I know how to hide my tracks”
Nick Knight
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“I commit with my heart and soul”
David LaChapelle
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“Everything was dramatic”
Brigitte Lacombe
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“My entire life has been my work”
Dominique Lévy
:
“You need to constantly refill”
Peter Lindbergh
:
“Beauty has nothing to do with youth”
Robert Longo
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“I went back to the beginning”
Liza Lou
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“Survival is at the core of it”
Gabriel Massan
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“Anything is possible”
Steve McCurry
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“It’s like hitting a drum”
Ryan McGinley
:
“I am just so fascinated by the body”
Steve McQueen
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“It’s about what’s right, not what fits”
Joel Meyerowitz
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“You have to let go of something”
Lee Mingwei
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“We are not broken”
Tyler Mitchell
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“Art is meant to be visceral”
Robert Montgomery
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“I tend to like the pathetic”
Saad Moosajee
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“You have to resonate with it”
Sarah Morris
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“There is no outside”
Ebecho Muslimova
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“Making art is not a pleasant feeling”
Shirin Neshat
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“You can’t demystify a myth”
Christoph Niemann
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“I don’t need a big idea”
Hans Ulrich Obrist
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“I believe in generosity as a medium”
Catherine Opie
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“If you don’t make it, it’s not out there”
Gabriel Orozco
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“I try to be disappointing”
Trevor Paglen
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“Your job is to learn how to see”
Martin Parr
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“I don’t expect to change anyone’s mind”
Willo Perron
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“I never wanted to be very singular”
Gaetano Pesce
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“The future is a beautiful time”
Elizabeth Peyton
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“History is contained within people”
Julia Peyton-Jones
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“You need that virtuous circle”
Robert Polidori
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“Why is there a line?”
Alex Prager
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“The idea is more important than anything”
Mel Ramos
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“Why not be naked in public?”
Mick Rock
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“I blame the name”
Thaddaeus Ropac
:
“People are hungry for new art”
Norman Jean Roy
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“The camera used to carry this mystique”
Tom Sachs
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“Consumerism was a ritual”
Stefan Sagmeister
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“Function alone is not doing it”
André Saraiva
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“The night is not a time, it's a place”
Peter Saville
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“I never had to answer to anyone”
Steve Schapiro
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“It’s a question of how you see it”
Julian Schnabel
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“I never thought of art as a career”
Martin Schoeller
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“I don’t think you can capture a soul”
Sean Scully
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“The poet was always in me”
Mark Seliger
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“Let’s do something special”
Chiharu Shiota
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“The fear is necessary”
David Shrigley
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“There is room for everything”
Gary Simmons
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“You want to create questions”
Kiki Smith
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“I just try to follow it”
Hajime Sorayama
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“Creating is my freedom”
Pete Souza
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“You’re doing it every day, all day”
Carla Sozzani
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“You need generosity to do this”
Erik Spiekermann
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“A good concept will survive forever”
Gunner Stahl
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“You can tell if it’s real or not”
Simon Starling
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“The practice has its own momentum”
Ralph Steadman
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“The line becomes more aggressive”
Pat Steir
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“I avoid struggle”
Thomas Struth
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“Now you've made it”
Sarah Sze
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“How do we breathe life into objects?”
Juergen Teller
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“You know when the work is good”
Cosey Fanni Tutti
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“It’s like a metamorphosis”
Axel Vervoordt
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“I like evolution, not revolution”
Leo Villareal
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“There’s no agenda”
Mark Wallinger
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“A perfect mirror throws back everything”
Albert Watson
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“You never get that day back”
Lawrence Weiner
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“There’s no secret in words”
Andro Wekua
:
“This is much more vulnerable”
Rachel Whiteread
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“I can let anything happen”
Robert Wilson
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“It’s okay to get lost”
Catherine Wood
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“How can we inhabit the image?”
Erwin Wurm
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“It only exists at this one time”
Rose Wylie
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“If it works, it works”
Emerging Masters
The Talks’ Emerging Masters is a series in partnership with Rolex featuring the extraordinary talents shaping the future of creativity.
Life
“You can work hard at this skill forever, you never reach the end; you never are a master, you’re never done. Writing is endless and I like that. I like that you can never conquer it.”
Sheila Heti
Canada, Author
“One of the things that I’m striving for is an authenticity, to do things which feel natural and make choices which feel authentic and real. I think in a way you sort of can’t help sounding like yourself. You can’t help but put yourself into your work.”
Max Richter
UK, Composer
“It’s a huge peace to allow yourself to be vulnerable. You gain a sense of freedom and understanding and forgiveness for being human. Instead of trying to control things and make it the way you want them, you have to be more open.”
Brie Larson
US, Actress
“I used to tease the other kids because I played better than them. Then my father said, ‘Come here. Don’t do this with the kids, because God gave you the gift to play football. You didn’t do anything. You have to respect people, be a good person. From now on, you must be this example.’”
Pelé
Brazil, Football Player
“We're not having to run from predatory animals like we did for hundreds of thousands of years before. So now we have to make up new activities to fulfill those emotional needs. There is a certain something about the ever-present danger of death that makes living so great.”
Laird Hamilton
US, Surfer
“Everybody is amazing at something — some people write music, some people are leaders, some people raise children, some people cook food. If you find what it is that you can offer to your fellow.”
Nick Offerman
US, Actor
“I like the accidents, the things that happen by chance. I let the life come to the picture and the creativity flow.”
Paolo Roversi
Italy, Photographer
“If you have to defend something that you like, it makes you to like it even more. My parents hated the comic strips, they hated rock ‘n’ roll, and when they found out what movies I was going to they also were against that. So everything I loved I had to defend.”
Wim Wenders
Germany, Film Directorwim
“Right now we are 40 people working in Osteria Francescana, for 28 or 30 covers a night. So, it’s totally the opposite of a business. You cannot survive with that. But we believe in those kinds of dreams and so I keep investing, and reinvesting, and reinvesting.”
Massimo Bottura
Italy, Chef
“I learned by doing. The rest is doing experiments and testing and not giving up. If something is not satisfying start again, turn everything upside down and find a new formula for printing. Everything is learning by doing.”
Gerhard Steidl
Germany, Publisher
“I think as you are growing up, deciding what you want to do is really the process of elimination rather than gravitating towards something until you land on what really makes you happy.”
Ian Schrager
US, Entrepreneur
“I just keep imagining myself thirty years from now thinking, ‘Why didn’t you take advantage of all the opportunities you had? Look at all the people you could have worked with, the roles you could have done. Go for it.’ And that’s what I am thinking.”
Leonardo DiCaprio
US, Actor
“I work till the breath goes out of me, and that might be at one or two or even four or five (in the afternoon). The point is that you must work every day if you ever expect to let the vision take hold of you.”
T.C. Boyle
US, Author
“Everyone’s life comes to an end. We’re all going to come to the same fate. So you just keep going while you can, doing what you like.”
Mick Jagger
UK, Musician
“It's just so boring listening to false modesty. I've worked for many, many years so I'm really enjoying that my hard work has paid off… I think you should know your worth!”
Denise Gough
Ireland, Actress
“When I was training as a ballet dancer, I know that I was often tired or in pain, but you just work through it. You go home crying and your parents almost want you to quit but then you just do it. And I use that stamina now as an actress because it’s normally quite uncomfortable to make films.”
Alicia Vikander
Sweden, Actress
“I think my photographic career has been one of growing, learning, experimenting and trying different things. That was a big journey for me! It’s always a progression, it’s about challenging the idea of what photography is.”
Mario Sorrenti
Italy, Photographer
“When I was younger I had these moments where I was surprising myself with my spontaneity, and I thought, ‘This is what you should be chasing.’ The cerebral part of acting and the perfectionism can be exhausting, but the spontaneity can be very joyful.”
Edward Norton
US, Actor
“There is something quite beautiful with the art thing, that you can only hold it back for so long and then you have to do it.”
Douglas Gordon
UK, Artist
“Each of my projects is kind of a marathon run. A lot of them won't make it to the finish line and the only reason they make it is because I go back and nurture them and try to figure everything out.”
Darren Aronofsky
US, Film Director
“I follow the beat of my own drum. I think I’ve gotten more confident and self-trustful in my ability and my natural appetite for play, and not over-adorning it with anything. I’ve always been disciplined and I’m still nothing if not conscientious.”
Jeff Goldblum
US, Actor
“I’ve been through some incredibly tough times in my career but I persevered and came out the other side. And that teaches you strength, how to handle being put under pressure. Experience is a big thing — just knowing that you can pull yourself back up again.”
Clare Smyth
UK, Chef
“My whole purpose in life is to communicate what I’m doing. I see myself as a modern nomad and a soldier at the same time. Being mainstream won’t change me because once I have something to perform, a task, then I’m a soldier. And I’ve always been a soldier.”
Marina Abramović
Serbia, Artist
“At what point do you feel you’ve achieved it and you can move on? I think you usually have to start thinking, ‘So what’s next?’”
Stuart Vevers
UK, Fashion Designer
“You don’t have to please everybody. As long as you and the people whose opinions you respect are comfortable and happy with it, then… keep going! Keep making that weird stuff.”
Craig Green
UK, Fashion Designer
“I act on intuition. I just let my intuition go in situations of fear. I live from my heart. I will continue doing things the way I have done them my whole life. And it gave me mostly a great time.”
Antonio Banderas
Spain, Actor
“I think you get more confident as you get older. You realize what your strengths and weaknesses are and you’re more okay with your weaknesses and you value your strengths more. I look forward to being 50 and I’m hoping that I’m as confident as some of the people that I look up to.”
Elisabeth Moss
US, Actress
“I don’t regret anything. I feel that I’ve made what I would call mistakes. But everything you do is a part of you. And you get something from it. The idea and excitement of being in these situations and places — they are more than just memories, they inform your life.”
Al Pacino
US, Actor
“The journey of an artist is a journey of discovery and some engagement with the nature of material, with bodily things and all that has led me to this place. I’m really interested in that as a process because the process moves you in directions that you couldn’t rationally put there.”
Anish Kapoor
UK, Artist
“It all comes down to realizing how good you are and really consciously working with that. I think as an artist we always try to hide the imperfections. But the imperfections are there because we’re all humans, and this is what makes us interesting.”
Nils Frahm
Germany, Composer
“I never have been into trends. Not now or then! I was born like that, in fact, if I see too much of something, I change it. I like independence. I love the eccentrics. Find your style and stick to it.”
Manolo Blahnik
Spain, Shoe Designer
“Part of being a designer is to fail every day, to try things that don’t work out. In a way, every project fails every day until it succeeds! That’s what the iterative process of design is about. Timing in many ways is key.”
Yves Béhar
Switzerland, Industrial Designer
“I don’t think I’m ever going to stop wanting to see and experience things. I think the day that you don’t long for that anymore is the day you have kind of given up.”
Sienna Miller
UK, Actor
“Failure is just something you have to go through on your own. Nothing can prepare you for it, just like a broken heart. I thought about folding, but I’m not a quitter. I’m not going to quit.”
Spike Lee
US, Film Director
“Architecture is the oddest profession. In the beginning you're very much involved in finding your voice and locating yourself artistically. For 25 years you're working with small projects, domestic projects. And then you mature at 50 and you're given your first projects.”
Thom Mayne
US, Architect
“Wherever any of us have been wounded, if we dive into what those wounds are, if we go down into and do the hard work within those wounds, we’ll actually find ourselves, we’ll find our real giftedness, a sincere, true giftedness.”
Andrew Garfield
UK, Actor
“I always say ideas drive the boat. Ideas are a huge, huge blessing. That’s the thing you try to catch – an idea that you fall in love with. The whole thing doesn’t come at once, but fragments of things come and these fragments form themselves into a script. It’s a process.”
David Lynch
US, Film Director
“I have the freedom to express myself. And it doesn’t matter if somebody’s going to pay me or pat me on the back for it. I chose to do things that I embrace, that I feel passionate about for whatever reason and I create my freedom around that.”
Joel Edgerton
Australia, Actor and Film Director
“I think the best you can do for yourself is let your subconscious drive you, instead of doing things because you want to achieve some sort of glory.”
Luca Guadagnino
Italy, Film Director
“I’m trying to not play it safe. I learn more when I fail than when I succeed, so if I push myself to do something that’s really difficult, I could fail and I’ll learn a lot. But if I don’t fail, then I’ll be in a great movie. I hope to be the kind of actor that isn’t always great.”
Jessica Chastain
US, Actor
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